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	<title>Comments on: Mr Moohead Tires of the &#8220;How Great Greg Oden Is&#8221; Talk</title>
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		<title>by: 2 Degree Graduations</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vindy.com/moohead/2007/03/25/mr-moohead-tires-of-the-how-great-greg-oden-is-talk/#comment-314</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vindy.com/moohead/2007/03/25/mr-moohead-tires-of-the-how-great-greg-oden-is-talk/#comment-123</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Greg Oden is a great player.. I mean.. Look how tall he is, and he can make dunk a ball after knocking his defender tothe floor.. Just because he is slow, can't score while being defended, and blocks the shots of players who are 6-10 inches shorter than him (players his own size usually score quite easily, unless Big Thug clubs them to the ground) Good luck in the NBA Glen Overrated... I mean Oden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Oden is a great player.. I mean.. Look how tall he is, and he can make dunk a ball after knocking his defender tothe floor.. Just because he is slow, can&#8217;t score while being defended, and blocks the shots of players who are 6-10 inches shorter than him (players his own size usually score quite easily, unless Big Thug clubs them to the ground) Good luck in the NBA Glen Overrated&#8230; I mean Oden
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		<title>by: terry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vindy.com/moohead/2007/03/25/mr-moohead-tires-of-the-how-great-greg-oden-is-talk/#comment-121</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Of course Greg Oden is not going to graduate from Ohio State, he's going to the NBA.  If the league had not changed the rule, he never would have even gone to Ohio State.  He was a sure fire first round pick coming out of high school.  As for his work habits, every coach says he works hard.  A lot of time he does not run down the floor because he knows a shot is going up before he gets there.  Face it, OSU has a lot of other scorers and Oden knows he can save some energy by not running down the floor to see a shot go up before he can get there to help.  That's smart, not lazy.  As for Lewis, why shouldn't his degree count?  He still had to complete two years of college when he transferred from Bowling Green and under Matta he earned enough credits to graduate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Greg Oden is not going to graduate from Ohio State, he&#8217;s going to the NBA.  If the league had not changed the rule, he never would have even gone to Ohio State.  He was a sure fire first round pick coming out of high school.  As for his work habits, every coach says he works hard.  A lot of time he does not run down the floor because he knows a shot is going up before he gets there.  Face it, OSU has a lot of other scorers and Oden knows he can save some energy by not running down the floor to see a shot go up before he can get there to help.  That&#8217;s smart, not lazy.  As for Lewis, why shouldn&#8217;t his degree count?  He still had to complete two years of college when he transferred from Bowling Green and under Matta he earned enough credits to graduate.
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		<title>by: Moohead</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vindy.com/moohead/2007/03/25/mr-moohead-tires-of-the-how-great-greg-oden-is-talk/#comment-120</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So Lewis's credits came from.....I guess we can't include him in the OSU grad stats if most of his credits came from a school that graduates a higher percentage of its athletes.

A 3.7 GPA taking what classes. I'll betcha Oden never gets a degree. That's the real point. I can get a 3.7 taking basket weaving.

Oden's minutes? Compare them to other college centers. Work habits? I have eyes. He often doesn't make it down the floor in time. He breathes heavily as if he's not in the best shape. Billy Packer noticed the same thing.

Uninformed? No. Wrong? Maybe. Ready for the NBA. Not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Lewis&#8217;s credits came from&#8230;..I guess we can&#8217;t include him in the OSU grad stats if most of his credits came from a school that graduates a higher percentage of its athletes.</p>
<p>A 3.7 GPA taking what classes. I&#8217;ll betcha Oden never gets a degree. That&#8217;s the real point. I can get a 3.7 taking basket weaving.</p>
<p>Oden&#8217;s minutes? Compare them to other college centers. Work habits? I have eyes. He often doesn&#8217;t make it down the floor in time. He breathes heavily as if he&#8217;s not in the best shape. Billy Packer noticed the same thing.</p>
<p>Uninformed? No. Wrong? Maybe. Ready for the NBA. Not.
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		<title>by: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vindy.com/moohead/2007/03/25/mr-moohead-tires-of-the-how-great-greg-oden-is-talk/#comment-119</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Also keep in mind that Ohio State is on the quarter system...meaning he would have had to take a full course load in the fall quarter, and now in the spring quarter which started this week.

AND...Ron Lewis was NOT here before Matta.  He transferred in from Bowling Green when Matta came on board.  He was not offered by Ohio State when O'Brien was the coach.  It would be nice if you could please do a little more research about a kid's academics before pasted them on the internet.  BTW...Oden got a 3.7 GPA in his fall quarter.

And again, regarding Oden's foul situation you are way off base and obviously havn't watched him play prior to the NCAA tournament.  Oden has only fouled out of 1 game...against Xavier.  And please, how could you possibly know what Oden's work habits are?  

Oden lazy?  Author uninformed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also keep in mind that Ohio State is on the quarter system&#8230;meaning he would have had to take a full course load in the fall quarter, and now in the spring quarter which started this week.</p>
<p>AND&#8230;Ron Lewis was NOT here before Matta.  He transferred in from Bowling Green when Matta came on board.  He was not offered by Ohio State when O&#8217;Brien was the coach.  It would be nice if you could please do a little more research about a kid&#8217;s academics before pasted them on the internet.  BTW&#8230;Oden got a 3.7 GPA in his fall quarter.</p>
<p>And again, regarding Oden&#8217;s foul situation you are way off base and obviously havn&#8217;t watched him play prior to the NCAA tournament.  Oden has only fouled out of 1 game&#8230;against Xavier.  And please, how could you possibly know what Oden&#8217;s work habits are?  </p>
<p>Oden lazy?  Author uninformed.
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		<title>by: Moohead</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vindy.com/moohead/2007/03/25/mr-moohead-tires-of-the-how-great-greg-oden-is-talk/#comment-118</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 02:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oden isn't bad. He's over rated. He's lazy. And he is being taught the wrong things.

He's also a great defensive presence who should be developed longer in order to be a force in the NBA.

Thad Matta is a great recruiter. We will see if his tenure is better than O'Brien's for graduation. Oden's course load doesn't bode well. Lewis was there before Matta.

Oden fouls too much per minute played. It has cut down on his impact minutes. Maybe that's good. He seems to struggle crossing the mid court line in transition, and breathes heavily after a few up and backs. He might need an iron lung if he actually played 35 minutes a game.

The NBA needs more big men. I'd like to see Oden with Roy Hibbert's work ethic. Hibbert has no discernible athletic skill, but has worked into an acceptable college 7 footer. If Oden worked that hard, he'd be all world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oden isn&#8217;t bad. He&#8217;s over rated. He&#8217;s lazy. And he is being taught the wrong things.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s also a great defensive presence who should be developed longer in order to be a force in the NBA.</p>
<p>Thad Matta is a great recruiter. We will see if his tenure is better than O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s for graduation. Oden&#8217;s course load doesn&#8217;t bode well. Lewis was there before Matta.</p>
<p>Oden fouls too much per minute played. It has cut down on his impact minutes. Maybe that&#8217;s good. He seems to struggle crossing the mid court line in transition, and breathes heavily after a few up and backs. He might need an iron lung if he actually played 35 minutes a game.</p>
<p>The NBA needs more big men. I&#8217;d like to see Oden with Roy Hibbert&#8217;s work ethic. Hibbert has no discernible athletic skill, but has worked into an acceptable college 7 footer. If Oden worked that hard, he&#8217;d be all world.
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		<title>by: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vindy.com/moohead/2007/03/25/mr-moohead-tires-of-the-how-great-greg-oden-is-talk/#comment-117</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.vindy.com/moohead/2007/03/25/mr-moohead-tires-of-the-how-great-greg-oden-is-talk/#comment-117</guid>
					<description>I'm not trying to defend Oden's current schedule...it is what it is.  But those graduation rates were from Jim O'Briens tenure, not Thad Matta.  Please remember that when O'Brien came in he had to kick 3 or 4 players off the team and also had players like Michael Redd leave early for the NBA.  All those players leaving have an effect on that graduation %.   Our program was a mess under O'Brien and has since turned around.  In Matta's previous two years we are 4 for 4 in graduations and Ron Lewis already finished this year.  

In regards to Oden's foul situation and impact on the floor....  Oden never fouled out of a game until Xavier in the tournament.  And, during the Memphis game when he came back in the 2nd half, we quickly went from down 5 to ahead by 5.  I'm sure you also noticed how he blocked a shot immediately after coming back in the game, and continued to take away the paint from Memphis.  OSU's ability to play good basketball without Oden on the floor, is a testament to how good our other players are, not a black mark against Oden.  Besides, he can't be that bad if he's 1st Team All-American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not trying to defend Oden&#8217;s current schedule&#8230;it is what it is.  But those graduation rates were from Jim O&#8217;Briens tenure, not Thad Matta.  Please remember that when O&#8217;Brien came in he had to kick 3 or 4 players off the team and also had players like Michael Redd leave early for the NBA.  All those players leaving have an effect on that graduation %.   Our program was a mess under O&#8217;Brien and has since turned around.  In Matta&#8217;s previous two years we are 4 for 4 in graduations and Ron Lewis already finished this year.  </p>
<p>In regards to Oden&#8217;s foul situation and impact on the floor&#8230;.  Oden never fouled out of a game until Xavier in the tournament.  And, during the Memphis game when he came back in the 2nd half, we quickly went from down 5 to ahead by 5.  I&#8217;m sure you also noticed how he blocked a shot immediately after coming back in the game, and continued to take away the paint from Memphis.  OSU&#8217;s ability to play good basketball without Oden on the floor, is a testament to how good our other players are, not a black mark against Oden.  Besides, he can&#8217;t be that bad if he&#8217;s 1st Team All-American.
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		<title>by: Moohead</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vindy.com/moohead/2007/03/25/mr-moohead-tires-of-the-how-great-greg-oden-is-talk/#comment-116</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>One guy. What are the odds that the Thad 5 will graduate? 10%. It's hard to get behind that kind of record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One guy. What are the odds that the Thad 5 will graduate? 10%. It&#8217;s hard to get behind that kind of record.
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		<title>by: sam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vindy.com/moohead/2007/03/25/mr-moohead-tires-of-the-how-great-greg-oden-is-talk/#comment-115</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Lewis is graduating with a soc. degree this spring commencent.</description>
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		<title>by: Moohead</title>
		<link>http://blogs.vindy.com/moohead/2007/03/25/mr-moohead-tires-of-the-how-great-greg-oden-is-talk/#comment-114</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I wish Oden was as dedicated to education as you suggest. Unfortunately, his course load this semester is 2 courses: Sociology, and The History of Rock n Roll. Seriously. That's his course load. This is NOT about his education. His career will be basketball. He needs more seasoning to succeed at the next level.

OSU graduated only 10% of it's basketball athletes from 1996-1999. Michigan State? 75%. Holy Cross? 85%. UNLV? 8%. This is shameful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish Oden was as dedicated to education as you suggest. Unfortunately, his course load this semester is 2 courses: Sociology, and The History of Rock n Roll. Seriously. That&#8217;s his course load. This is NOT about his education. His career will be basketball. He needs more seasoning to succeed at the next level.</p>
<p>OSU graduated only 10% of it&#8217;s basketball athletes from 1996-1999. Michigan State? 75%. Holy Cross? 85%. UNLV? 8%. This is shameful.
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